DETERMINED TO STAND – Bob Dylan 1987

6 Temples In Flames – Tour of Europe. 1

6.1 Introduction.. 1

6.2 The musicians. 1

6.3 The show... 2

6.4 The dates. 3

6.5 The songs. 4

6.6 Statistics. 12

6.6.1 Show statistics. 12

6.6.2 Song statistics. 12

6.7 Comments. 13

6.7.1 Guests. 13

6.7.2 Songs. 13

6.7.3 Recommended shows. 13

7 1987 tour summary.. 14

7.1 Album statistics. 14

7.2 Songs played.. 15

8 Songs 1987. 16

9 Suggested Readings.. 17

10 SOURCES.. 17

11 Bibliography.. 18

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Determined To Stand

6 Temples In Flames – Tour of Europe

6.1 Introduction

The tour in Europe in the fall with Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers utterly different from their previous tour in the US, True Confessions. Dylan again was the elderly bard. Stage lights were so turned down you could hardly see him. His singing was at times extremely erratic, both in terms of phrasing and lyrics. The sets were apparently completely random, as can be seen from the song charts below. The Dylan part of the show was also very short. All this: short set, dark stage and Dylan not saying a word, compared of course very unfavorably to the previous shows in Europe in the summer of '84 and a lot of people went home utterly disappointed. It must be said though that The Heartbreakers provided excellent backing throughout the tour and that most of the shows were very, very good.

6.2 The musicians

Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers:

Tom Petty (guitar, vocal)

Mike Campbell (guitar)

Benmont Tench (keyboards)

Howie Epstein (bass)

Stan Lynch (drums).

and The Queens Of Rhythm: Queen Esther Marrow, Madelyn Quebec, Carolyn Dennis.

6.3 The show

The tour was done in collaboration with Roger McGuinn who opened each concert with a solo set consisting of 5 or 6 songs. He was then joined by Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers for the final 3-4 songs.

After Roger McGuinn's set, Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers performed their set of 7-8 songs. After an intermission, the lights went down, the sound got worse and Bob Dylan came on for his set which consisted of about 14 songs.

Starting with the show in Gothenburg, Sweden, 25 September, Dylan performed one, later two, acoustic songs, backed by Benmont Tench on piano and Mike Campbell on guitar.

6.4 The dates

September

5	Tel-Aviv, Israel	Hayarkon Park
7	Jerusalem, Israel	Sultan's Pool
10	Basel, Switzerland	St. Jakobshalle
12	Modena, Italy	Area Ex Autodromo
13	Turin, Italy	Palasport
15	Dortmund, West Germany	Westfalenhalle 1
16	Nuremberg, West Germany	Frankenhalle
17	East Berlin, East Germany	Treptower Festwiese
19	Rotterdam, The Netherlands	Sportpaleis Ahoy
20	Hannover, West Germany	Messehalle 20
21	Copenhagen, Denmark	Valby Hallen
23	Helsinki, Finland	Jäähalli
25	Gothenburg, Sweden	Scandinavium
26	Stockholm, Sweden	Johanneshovs Isstadion
28	Frankfurt, West Germany	Festhalle
29	Stuttgart, West Germany	Hanns Martin Schleyerhalle
30	Munich, West Germany	Olympiahalle

October

1	Verona, Italy	Arena di Verona
3	Rome, Italy	Roma Palaeur
4	Milan, Italy	Arena Civica di Milano
5	Locarno, Switzerland	Piazza Grande
7	Paris, France	P.O.P.B. Bercy
8	Brussels, Belgium	Vorst Nationaal
10	Birmingham, England	International Arena, National Exhibition Center
11	Birmingham, England	International Arena, National Exhibition Center
12	Birmingham, England	International Arena, National Exhibition Center
14	London, England	Wembley Arena
15	London, England	Wembley Arena
16	London, England	Wembley Arena
17	London, England	Wembley Arena

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6.5 The songs

In order played

									September
		5	7	10	12	13	15	16		17	19	20	21	23	25	26	28	29	30
Maggie's Farm		1				5				3		3		5	2	2	3	2	8
I'll Be Your Baby Tonight		2								2		4
Señor (Tales Of Yankee Power)		3					4					9		7
Highway 61 Revisited		4			4		9			8	2			1
I And I		5			6	14		7		11		5				10			6
Watching The River Flow		6					2				11		9	3
Simple Twist Of Fate		7			5					4				4			4
Stuck Inside Of Mobile With The Memphis Bl		8			12									6
In The Garden		9		13	3		10	2		14			12		14
Joey		10			8			5					8					14	1
Dead Man, Dead Man		11					12			5	6		5	2	12	14	14		12
I'll Remember You		12			7		7								6
Tangled Up In Blue		13			9		11							10	7	7			5
All Along The Watchtower		14			13
Knockin' On Heaven's Door		15			14		1	14				12			11	13	12		13
Blowin' In The Wind		16								13				14
Go Down, Moses		17
The Times They Are A-Changin'			1			13					1	1					1
Man Of Peace			2					6				2
Like A Rolling Stone			3	14			13			12					1	1	2	1	3
Rainy Day Women # 12 & 35			4		1			1		10				9	13	12	13	8	14
Emotionally Yours			5			7										6
Shot Of Love			6			12		9			4	14			10		5
Ballad Of A Thin Man			7		10			12		6	3	7	7				7
You're A Big Girl Now			8
John Brown			9			6		10			10				5	5		7
License To Kill			10			11		11					11				6
It's All Over Now, Baby Blue			11					8				8		8				10
Gotta Serve Somebody			12			4					14		14	12		4	10		9
Slow Train			13								12	11
Forever Young				1			14						1		3	3		3	7
Shelter From The Storm				2			6			7		10	2				9		4
Seeing The Real You At Last				3									4			8		11	2
When The Night Comes Falling From The Sky				4	15			13		1								4
Queen Jane Approximately				5							5
When I Paint My Masterpiece				6									3
The Ballad Of Frankie Lee And Judas Priest				7			8
Clean-Cut Kid				8			5				8	6	6		8		11	13
I Want You				9	2		3	3			9
Masters Of War				10		2		4
I Shall Be Released				11		9					7			11		11		5
Trust Yourself				12											4
Pledging My Time					11
Positively 4th Street						1												6
Lenny Bruce						3
The Wicked Messenger						8
Heart Of Mine						10
I Dreamed I Saw St. Augustine										9									11
Chimes Of Freedom											13	13	13					12
Desolation Row													10	13
Tomorrow Is A Long Time	AB														9	9	8
Don't Think Twice, It's All Right	AB																	9	10
Total # of songs		17	13	14	15	14	14	14		14	14	14	14	14	14	14	14	14	14

						October
	1	3	4	5	7		8	10	11	12	14	15	16	17	Σ
Maggie's Farm	3		3	3	3		5	3	3	2	2	3	2	3	22
I'll Be Your Baby Tonight	6			4					7		4			8	8
Señor (Tales Of Yankee Power)							6	4				6			7
Highway 61 Revisited															6
I And I	8	6			9		12				7			12	14
Watching The River Flow	9			8	6				5			9		9	11
Simple Twist Of Fate		10	4	9	7			7				8		7	12
Stuck Inside Of Mobile With The Memphis Bl															3
In The Garden		12			12		16	12			15			16	14
Joey					10					7					8
Dead Man, Dead Man	5			5				11		11		13	9	5	17
I'll Remember You	4								12			5			7
Tangled Up In Blue	7								8						9
All Along The Watchtower															2
Knockin' On Heaven's Door			12					14	13					17	13
Blowin' In The Wind		1	14	14			14		1			1			9
Go Down, Moses														20	2
The Times They Are A-Changin'		14	1				3	1						1	10
Man Of Peace		3									5			11	6
Like A Rolling Stone	2	2	2	2	2		2	2	2	1	1	2	1	2	22
Rainy Day Women # 12 & 35				1					15	17		15	14	19	16
Emotionally Yours										8			8		5
Shot Of Love	14	13	5	12	16		13				13				14
Ballad Of A Thin Man	12		7	11					6			4			13
You're A Big Girl Now															1
John Brown	10				8				9			10			11
License To Kill			6							10					7
It's All Over Now, Baby Blue															5
Gotta Serve Somebody			10		13		4		10	14			12	10	15
Slow Train															3
Forever Young		4			4				4	3	3	14	3	4	15
Shelter From The Storm		8	9							5			5		11
Seeing The Real You At Last		9		7	5			8		9	10		4		12

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In song order

									September
		5	7	10	12	13	15	16		17	19	20	21	23	25	26	28	29	30
All Along The Watchtower		14			13
Ballad Of A Thin Man			7		10			12		6	3	7	7				7
The Ballad Of Frankie Lee And Judas Priest				7			8
Blowin' In The Wind		16								13				14
Chimes Of Freedom											13	13	13					12
Clean-Cut Kid				8			5				8	6	6		8		11	13
Dead Man, Dead Man		11					12			5	6		5	2	12	14	14		12
Desolation Row													10	13
Don't Think Twice, It's All Right	AB																	9	10
Emotionally Yours			5			7										6
Forever Young				1			14						1		3	3		3	7
Go Down, Moses		17
Gotta Serve Somebody			12			4					14		14	12		4	10		9
Heart Of Mine						10
Highway 61 Revisited		4			4		9			8	2			1
House Of The Risin' Sun
I And I		5			6	14		7		11		5				10			6
I Dreamed I Saw St. Augustine										9									11
I Shall Be Released				11		9					7			11		11		5
I Want You				9	2		3	3			9
I'll Be Your Baby Tonight		2								2		4
I'll Remember You		12			7		7								6
In The Garden		9		13	3		10	2		14			12		14
It's All Over Now, Baby Blue			11					8				8		8				10
Joey		10			8			5					8					14	1
John Brown			9			6		10			10				5	5		7
Knockin' On Heaven's Door		15			14		1	14				12			11	13	12		13
Lenny Bruce						3
License To Kill			10			11		11					11				6
Like A Rolling Stone			3	14			13			12					1	1	2	1	3
The Lonesome Death Of Hattie Carroll	AB
Maggie's Farm		1				5				3		3		5	2	2	3	2	8
Man Gave Names To All The Animals
Man Of Peace			2					6				2
Masters Of War				10		2		4
Pledging My Time					11
Positively 4th Street						1												6
Queen Jane Approximately				5							5
Rainy Day Women # 12 & 35			4		1			1		10				9	13	12	13	8	14
Seeing The Real You At Last				3									4			8		11	2
Señor (Tales Of Yankee Power)		3					4					9		7
Shelter From The Storm				2			6			7		10	2				9		4
Shot Of Love			6			12		9			4	14			10		5
Simple Twist Of Fate		7			5					4				4			4
Slow Train			13								12	11
Stuck Inside Of Mobile With The Memphis Bl		8			12									6
Tangled Up In Blue		13			9		11							10	7	7			5
The Times They Are A-Changin'			1			13					1	1					1
To Ramona	AB
Tomorrow Is A Long Time	AB														9	9	8
Trust Yourself				12											4
Watching The River Flow		6					2				11		9	3
When I Paint My Masterpiece				6									3
When The Night Comes Falling From The Sky				4	15			13		1								4
The Wicked Messenger						8
You're A Big Girl Now			8
Total # of songs		17	13	14	15	14	14	14		14	14	14	14	14	14	14	14	14	14

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							October
		1	3	4	5	7		8	10	11	12	14	15	16	17	Σ
All Along The Watchtower																2
Ballad Of A Thin Man		12		7	11					6			4			13
The Ballad Of Frankie Lee And Judas Priest					6							9				4
Blowin' In The Wind			1	14	14			14		1			1			9
Chimes Of Freedom								9	13			14		13	18	9
Clean-Cut Kid				11							6		7			11
Dead Man, Dead Man		5			5				11		11		13	9	5	17
Desolation Row								1								3
Don't Think Twice, It's All Right	AB	11		8		11		11		11		11	12		13	10
Emotionally Yours											8			8		5
Forever Young			4			4				4	3	3	14	3	4	15
Go Down, Moses															20	2
Gotta Serve Somebody				10		13		4		10	14			12	10	15
Heart Of Mine			5												15	3
Highway 61 Revisited																6
House Of The Risin' Sun						15										1
I And I		8	6			9		12				7			12	14
I Dreamed I Saw St. Augustine				13						14					6	5
I Shall Be Released		13							9		15			6		10
I Want You								7	5			6				8
I'll Be Your Baby Tonight		6			4					7		4			8	8
I'll Remember You		4								12			5			7
In The Garden			12			12		16	12			15			16	14
It's All Over Now, Baby Blue																5
Joey						10					7					8
John Brown		10				8				9			10			11
Knockin' On Heaven's Door				12					14	13					17	13
Lenny Bruce												8				2
License To Kill				6							10					7
Like A Rolling Stone		2	2	2	2	2		2	2	2	1	1	2	1	2	22
The Lonesome Death Of Hattie Carroll	AB							10			12		11			3
Maggie's Farm		3		3	3	3		5	3	3	2	2	3	2	3	22
Man Gave Names To All The Animals						1		15								2
Man Of Peace			3									5			11	6
Masters Of War																3
Pledging My Time								8	6							3
Positively 4th Street											16					3
Queen Jane Approximately																2
Rainy Day Women # 12 & 35					1					15	17		15	14	19	16
Seeing The Real You At Last			9		7	5			8		9	10		4		12
Señor (Tales Of Yankee Power)								6	4				6			7
Shelter From The Storm			8	9							5			5		11
Shot Of Love		14	13	5	12	16		13				13				14
Simple Twist Of Fate			10	4	9	7			7				8		7	12
Slow Train																3
Stuck Inside Of Mobile With The Memphis Bl																3
Tangled Up In Blue		7								8						9
The Times They Are A-Changin'			14	1				3	1						1	10
To Ramona	AB													10		1
Tomorrow Is A Long Time	AB		11		10	14			10		13	12		11	14	11
Trust Yourself					13											3
Watching The River Flow		9			8	6				5			9		9	11
When I Paint My Masterpiece																2
When The Night Comes Falling From The Sky		1									4			7		8
The Wicked Messenger			7													2
You're A Big Girl Now																1
Total # of songs		14	14	14	14	16		16	14	15	17	15	15	14	20	439

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6.6 Statistics

6.6.1 Show statistics

Number of shows	30
Number of circulating shows	30
Number of circulating & complete shows	30
Number of unique shows[1]	30
Number of different shows[2]	30
Number of different songs[3]	56
Number of unique songs[4]	56
Number of performed songs	439
Mean number of performed songs	14
Variation[5]	3.8

6.6.2 Song statistics

	# of		# of
	songs	%	perf.	%
Electric	52	92.9	414	94.3
Acoustic	4	7.1	25	5.7
Albums	53	94.6	433	98.6
Singles	1	1.8	3	0.7
Outtakes	0	0.0	0	0.0
Covers	2	3.6	3	0.7

6.7 Comments

6.7.1 Guests

Roger McGuinn played guitar during the encores and also sang on Chimes Of Freedom.

At Wembley Arena in London, 14 October, Bobby C. Valentino played violin on Lenny Bruce.

Ron Wood played guitar on Rainy Day Women # 12 & 35 at Wembley Arena, 16 October.

George Harrison played guitar and sang (without knowing the lyrics) on Rainy Day Women # 12 & 35 at Wembley Arena, 17 October.

None of these guests were introduced.

6.7.2 Songs

Desolation Row, up till now only performed three times after 1966, and not played again till June '90, was played at three occasions.

Two covers only, during this tour: Go Down, Moses and House Of The Rising Sun.

Pledging My Time was the only live debut, performed three times.

6.7.3 Recommended shows

Modena, Italy, 12 September,

Turin, Italy, 13 September,

Stockholm, 26 September,

London, 17 October.

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7 1987 tour summary

7.1 Album statistics

	# of		# of
Album	songs	%	perf	%
Bob Dylan	0	0.0%	0	0.0%
Freewheelin'	3	5.6%	22	4.3%
The Times They Are A-Changin'	2	3.7%	16	3.1%
Another Side	2	3.7%	14	2.7%
Bringing It All Back Home	3	5.6%	35	6.8%
Highway 61 Revisited	5	9.3%	60	11.7%
Blonde On Blonde	4	7.4%	40	7.8%
Basement Tapes	0	0.0%	0	0.0%
John Wesley Harding	4	7.4%	27	5.3%
Nashville Skyline	0	0.0%	0	0.0%
Selfportrait	0	0.0%	0	0.0%
New Morning	0	0.0%	0	0.0%
Greatest Hits Vol 2	4	7.4%	37	7.2%
Pat Garrett	1	1.9%	17	3.3%
Planet Waves	1	1.9%	15	2.9%
Blood On The Tracks	4	7.4%	39	7.6%
Desire	1	1.9%	11	2.1%
Street-Legal	1	1.9%	7	1.4%
Slow Train Coming	3	5.6%	25	4.9%
Saved	1	1.9%	14	2.7%
Shot Of Love	4	7.4%	39	7.6%
Infidels	3	5.6%	30	5.8%
Empire Burlesque	6	11.1%	46	8.9%
Knocked-Out Loaded	0	0.0%	0	0.0%
Hearts Of Fire	0	0.0%	0	0.0%
Down In The Groove	0	0.0%	0	0.0%

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7.2 Songs played

1 = US Summer Tour with The Grateful Dead

2 = Temples In Flames Tour in Europe

Song		1	2	Σ
All Along The Watchtower		6	2	8
Ballad Of A Thin Man		6	13	19
The Ballad Of Frankie Lee And Judas Priest		2	4	6
Blowin' In The Wind			9	9
Chimes Of Freedom		4	9	13
Clean-Cut Kid			11	11
Dead Man, Dead Man		2	17	19
Desolation Row			3	3
Don't Think Twice, It's All Right	AB		10	10
Emotionally Yours			5	5
Forever Young			15	15
Go Down, Moses			2	2
Gotta Serve Somebody		2	15	17
Heart Of Mine		1	3	4
Highway 61 Revisited		3	6	9
House Of The Risin' Sun			1	1
I And I			14	14
I Dreamed I Saw St. Augustine			5	5
I Shall Be Released			10	10
I Want You		2	8	10
I'll Be Your Baby Tonight		3		3
I'll Be Your Baby Tonight			8	8
I'll Remember You			7	7
In The Garden			14	14
It's All Over Now, Baby Blue		4	5	9
Joey		3	8	11
John Brown		3	11	14
Knockin' On Heaven's Door		4	13	17
Lenny Bruce			2	2
License To Kill			7	7
Like A Rolling Stone			22	22
The Lonesome Death Of Hattie Carroll	AB		3	3
Maggie's Farm		3	22	25
Man Gave Names To All The Animals			2	2
Man Of Peace		3	6	9
Masters Of War			3	3
Mr. Tambourine Man		1		1
Pledging My Time			3	3
Positively 4th Street			3	3
Queen Jane Approximately		5	2	7
Rainy Day Women # 12 & 35		2	16	18
Seeing The Real You At Last			12	12
Señor (Tales Of Yankee Power)			7	7
Shelter From The Storm		1	11	12
Shot Of Love			14	14
Simple Twist Of Fate		3	12	15
Slow Train		3	3	6
Stuck Inside Of Mobile With The Memphis Blues Again		6	3	9
Tangled Up In Blue		2	9	11
The Times They Are A-Changin'		3	10	13
To Ramona	AB		1	1
Tomorrow Is A Long Time		1		1
Tomorrow Is A Long Time	AB		11	11
Touch Of Grey		3		3
Trust Yourself			3	3
Watching The River Flow		2	11	13
When I Paint My Masterpiece			2	2
When The Night Comes Falling From The Sky			8	8
The Wicked Messenger		1	2	3
You're A Big Girl Now			1	1
Total # of performances		84	439	523

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8 Songs 1987

April	Silvio	1
	Ugliest Girl In The World	1
Fall	Love Rescue Me	2

Notes

1. Co-written with The Grateful Dead's lyricist Robert Hunter.

2. Co-written with U2 and released on their Rattle And Hum album on which Dylan plays guitar and shares the vocal with Bono. Originally titled Prisoner Of Love.

9 Suggested Readings

Georg Stein: Temples In Flames (1989) - a German book containing photos from the tour in Europe.

The Historic Meeting? - a review of Dylan And The Dead by Chris Cooper in Isis #24

Muddy River Country. Bob Dylan & Jerry Garcia, On The Tracks #7 (Vol. 4, No 1)

Seeing The Real You At last? - Bob Dylan in England 1987 by John Lindley in The Telegraph #28

Time To Keep Up With The Times – article by Björn Waller in Judas! Number 8 – January 2004.

Tom Petty Interview – The Telegraph 56 (Winter 1997)

10 SOURCES

William J. Clinton	The Bob Dylan CD & CDR Field Recordings Guide Of William J. Clinton www.angelfire.com/wa/monicasdude
Tim Dunn	I Just Write 'Em As They Come. Annotated Guide to the Writings of Bob Dylan A Not-A-Ces Publishing Venture 1990.
Glen Dundas	Tangled Up In Tapes — 4th Edition A Recording History of Bob Dylan SMA Services, Thunder Bay, Ontario, Canada 1999. Softcover 334 pages.
Clinton Heylin	A Life In Stolen Moments. Bob Dylan Day By Day 1941-1995. Schirmer Books 1996, 404 pages.
Clinton Heylin	Bob Dylan, The Recording Sessions 1960-1994 St. Martin's Press, 1995, 233 pages.
Michael Krogsgaard	Positively Bob Dylan A Thirty-Year Discography, Concert & Record Session Guide 1960-1991. Popular Culture, Ink. 1991. 500 pages.
Michael Krogsgaard	Bob Dylan: The Recording Sessions (Part 3). The Telegraph #55, Summer 1996, pp. 111–142.
Craig Pinkerton	Bob's Boots www.bobsboots.com/
Ray Stavrou	A Vinyl Headstone Almost In Place Loose leaf binder, 530 pages.

11 Bibliography

John Baldwin	The fiddler now upspoke, Volumes 1–5. A collection of Bob Dylan interviews and press conferences. Desolation Row Promotions, 1995.
Carl Benson (ed)	The Bob Dylan Companion — Four Decades of Commentary. Schirmer Books, New York 1998. Softcover 306 pages.
Michael Gray	Song & Dance Man III. The Art Of Bob Dylan Cassell 1999. Hardback 918 pages.
Clinton Heylin	Behind The Shades. A Biography. Summit Books 1991, 500 pages.
Craig McGregor (ed)	Bob Dylan. A Retrospective. William Morrow 1972
Anthony Scaduto	Bob Dylan. An intimate biography. New American Library 1973
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[1] a show is unique if no other show has the same songs in the same order

[2] a show is different from another show if the set of songs are different, regardless of order.

[3] electric and acoustic versions are counted as different songs.

[4] a song is counted as unique regardless of how it is performed.

[5] variation is computed as the ratio between number of different songs and mean number of performed songs.